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Jonathan Malcom
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Posted - 2012.03.26 16:44:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Karadion wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Karadion wrote:[If I stole a bunch of **** from someone ingame and they kill themselves as a result of my action, it's not my damn problem. They make the choices themselves, I in no way am responsible for their actions. You've chosen a poor example. In your example above, you are just playing the game and therefore there is nothing you could have done other than not play the game. I don't care. What part of that do you not get? My moral code is far different from your moral code. You are not allowed to define what my moral code is and that's a fact of life. Morality has always been subjective to interpretation and how we define things to be good and bad on a case by case basis. For me, if my actions caused another person to threaten to kill themselves, why am I responsible? They make the choices themselves and I will never ever care. It has nothing to do with being a sociopath. It has to do with poor decisions that people make every day. "I'm going to kill myself." "Okay. And?" From what you've written, I take it Karadion is probably an alt of the Mittani? If your actions goaded someone into doing something then you are at least partially responsible for the outcome. It's not just about someone making poor decisions some people can be influenced by others and in the case of people with mental health issues they're even more vulnerable.
This is a completely ridiculous statement. If someone is pushed over the edge and commits suicide because I wore brown shoes, that in no way inculpates me.
Reductio ad absurdum, certainly. But the principle holds. People are ultimately responsible for their own actions. Trying to insinuate some moral culpability because someone may have committed suicide because people on the Internet were mean to them is ridiculous. |

Jonathan Malcom
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:51:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:Personally, while I can stand Michael Bolton's fratboy shenanigans, This makes me embarrassed to be an eve player.
This is not the type of media CCP wants brought. Scams, and losing isk is one thing, the harassment and potential death of a player, is a whole new level of morally bankrupt.
I imagine most of those defending mittens have never lost someone close to them to suicide or dealt with death in any significant way.
His antics, while arguably borderline sociopathic, speak more to his immaturity and childishness than anything else. You know who else doesn't realize the impact of their words, 12 year olds and teenagers looking for attention.
Hi. My uncle on my mothers side committed suicide.
It was a joke. Kill yourself. |

Jonathan Malcom
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:04:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:
Oh man, you're so cool, can I be just like you?
Yes, you can. But it will require some perspective. Good luck.
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Jonathan Malcom
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:03:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Xython wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:This is an absolute disaster for CCP and EVE Online. Why would I play a game where players will try and craft my death in real ******* life? This is way beyond a game. I'm not forking money for this kind of abuse. Can I have your stuff? What makes you think I'm going to login to the game again? Eve is finished as far as I'm concerned. I'm only here because bullying and suicide is a serious issue and CCP needs to address it.
Oh, thank god. Get the **** out, nerd. |

Jonathan Malcom
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:17:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Jonathan Malcom wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:Xython wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:This is an absolute disaster for CCP and EVE Online. Why would I play a game where players will try and craft my death in real ******* life? This is way beyond a game. I'm not forking money for this kind of abuse. Can I have your stuff? What makes you think I'm going to login to the game again? Eve is finished as far as I'm concerned. I'm only here because bullying and suicide is a serious issue and CCP needs to address it. Oh, thank god. Get the **** out, nerd. Thank you for confirming the rightness of my decision. I'll be encouraging others to avoid this cesspool of a "game" where players try to kill you in real life.
That's exactly what's going on here. Attempted murder. Your sense of perception is razor sharp.
Holy ****. Get out. |

Jonathan Malcom
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:47:00 -
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Moro Oskold wrote:guys pls dont mess with suicide since i almost tried to kill myself
my boyfriend managed to dissuade me before i figuratively pulled the trigger but i'm not so sure he'll be successful the next time i feel like ****
my parents are disowning me because in their eyes i am nothing but a leech. they do not like the course i am taking up in college. they think a course in fine arts will lead to nothing. they are expecting me to just get a job and pay them back for my schooling. but i can't do that. i can't sacrifice my education and dream for their expectations
i have no one to run to. my boyfriend lives too far away. he is a student like i am. i can't get a job, even a parttime one because no one will accept me. i don't know what to do anymore
today my parents told me i was unwanted, and that i'm worthless. all because of ******* money. all of my effort in improving myself in terms of personality, art skills, my grades, everything, it's all worthless because i can't give them back money.
at first they were happy i was able to get some commissions off deviantart, but when they realized it was only ~$20 a piece, they started hating me again. i don't think i can ever live up to their expectations. i've never felt like they loved me. it all boils down to money for them.
i feel like an empty shell of a person now. i'm sorry if nothing i say makes sense anymore, i just really need a place to rant.
If you're serious: Seek professional help. Seriously. I dont know you. I don't care about you. That's what happens when you look for help and support from an Internet spaceship forum. But there are people who do care about you and do care whether you kill yourself or not. Talk to them about it. You're looking for help in the wrong place.
Also, you have ****** parents.
If you're trolling: Well-played. |

Jonathan Malcom
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:30:00 -
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Twulf wrote:I think that most of you that are pro Mittani are missing the major point here.
This COULD be a huge issue for CCP. There are US congress people looking for any reason to shut down or regulate the video game industry. Things like this just add fuel to their fire.
You do understand that the USA could simply ban CCP from selling EVE in America correct? You do understand that is something that is not out of the realm of possiblilities if one of these anti-video game people pick this up and run with it. Cyber - Bulling is a huge issue here in the states. I disagree as I think bullying is just human nature but that is not the point.
I think you idiots need to understand how much of an issue this could really be. This is much more then some simple comment made by an idiot. This could be the issue that starts the ball rolling for the anit video game people.
I do not think it will get that big but that is the issue here. Not so much how stupid the comment was, or how wrong it is to try and push someone over the edge and kill themselves but the fact that this is the kind of ammo these anti video game people are waiting for.
What would you idiot goons do if the USA ban's EVE in the USA? How much crying would there be?
This is the worst case but it could happen and their are people waiting for just these kind of things to happen, so they can grab and run around saying "I told you so, I told you video games are evil."
Scare-mongering at its finest. You're a sensationalist idiot. |

Jonathan Malcom
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:06:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Twulf wrote: You cannot use VPN on most home computers as most home computers are not setup to be logged into via VPN. I know a lot of home computers that think you're wrong and I'm right Do you know what VPN is? A home computer that is not on a network, cannot be logged into via VPN, as how is it going to answer the VPN request and assign it an IP address? VPN = A virtual private network (VPN) is a network that uses primarily public telecommunication infrastructures, such as the Internet, to provide remote offices or traveling users an access to a central organizational network. Please explain how most Home PCs have a "central organizational network" again? VPN is the wrong term. What you want is called a bot net, or ghosting IP's or even something as simple as setting up the DNS in your router for an hour and then turning them off again to change your IP. I can explain how those work if you wish.
Hi. I work for a major US ISP. I help people connect to VPNs through their PCs at home all the time. You're an idiot. |
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